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	<title>Comments on: Should you repay your HELP-HECS loan or not?</title>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://nomoney.com.au/hecs201/comment-page-1#comment-5632</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 03:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Dash

Agree that it is correct to tell the ATO you have a HELP debt when you complete your TFN declaration form (when you get a new job).

I more meant for people who had an existing job (say through high school) who had already completed the TFN declaration form. But I agree that the correct thing to do is to advise your employer (who might start taking extra tax out).

Yes - I was aware the voluntary repayment has dropped to 5% - just hadn&#039;t had time to write about it!!
Cheers
Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Dash</p>
<p>Agree that it is correct to tell the ATO you have a HELP debt when you complete your TFN declaration form (when you get a new job).</p>
<p>I more meant for people who had an existing job (say through high school) who had already completed the TFN declaration form. But I agree that the correct thing to do is to advise your employer (who might start taking extra tax out).</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; I was aware the voluntary repayment has dropped to 5% &#8211; just hadn&#8217;t had time to write about it!!<br />
Cheers<br />
Scott</p>
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		<title>By: dash</title>
		<link>http://nomoney.com.au/hecs201/comment-page-1#comment-5623</link>
		<dc:creator>dash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just got off the phone with the ATO, they said telling your employer that you don&#039;t have a HELP debt means you could be penalized/fined.  Especially if you are holding off mandatory repayments to make a bulk voluntary repayment later. Thoughts?

Thanks for the article BTW.

And FYI the 10% bonus drops to 5% after 1 January 2012. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just got off the phone with the ATO, they said telling your employer that you don&#8217;t have a HELP debt means you could be penalized/fined.  Especially if you are holding off mandatory repayments to make a bulk voluntary repayment later. Thoughts?</p>
<p>Thanks for the article BTW.</p>
<p>And FYI the 10% bonus drops to 5% after 1 January 2012. <img src='http://nomoney.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://nomoney.com.au/hecs201/comment-page-1#comment-5472</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 12:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kristian

Appreciate your comment. Congratulations on being HECS-HELP free!

Looks like you have used the &quot;last year payment&quot; strategy I mention in the article to get the benefit for your last 2 years paying HECS-HELP.

Paying approx 17k to cancel a $19k debt (saving 1.8k) is a good investment. &lt;strong&gt;Instant 10% return on investment&lt;/strong&gt;.   (I disagree with saying the amount saved 1.8k vs amount you&#039;d have to pay next year 10k means its a 20% return on investment - you paid as 1 lump sum: 8,100 instead of 9,000 this year (10% ROI) and 9,000 instead of 10,000 next year (10% ROI)).

Definitely agree with your comment re: trade off between different investments.
I thought I&#039;d unpack that a bit more...

1.You would almost definitely be ahead of keeping it the bank at 6% (although not AMAZINGLY better off, say $750 on your numbers as a complete guess)

But I&#039;m just playing devils advocate - 
2. if you just paid the compulsory $9,000 when you lodged your tax return this year (maybe your employer withheld this?) and kept the $17,000 (or $8,000) and bought a unit worth $170k (maybe your parents lend you some deposit money or you got 5% loan 3 years ago when they still offered them) that rose to $210k after 5 years - you&#039;d be better off with the house.

Or (probably more commonly) 
3. go to Europe next year and spend 12k on your credit card -and it takes you 5 months to pay it back - you might have been better NOT paying the HELP.

But of course paying off your HECS (or any loan) is a fantastic feeling.

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kristian</p>
<p>Appreciate your comment. Congratulations on being HECS-HELP free!</p>
<p>Looks like you have used the &#8220;last year payment&#8221; strategy I mention in the article to get the benefit for your last 2 years paying HECS-HELP.</p>
<p>Paying approx 17k to cancel a $19k debt (saving 1.8k) is a good investment. <strong>Instant 10% return on investment</strong>.   (I disagree with saying the amount saved 1.8k vs amount you&#8217;d have to pay next year 10k means its a 20% return on investment &#8211; you paid as 1 lump sum: 8,100 instead of 9,000 this year (10% ROI) and 9,000 instead of 10,000 next year (10% ROI)).</p>
<p>Definitely agree with your comment re: trade off between different investments.<br />
I thought I&#8217;d unpack that a bit more&#8230;</p>
<p>1.You would almost definitely be ahead of keeping it the bank at 6% (although not AMAZINGLY better off, say $750 on your numbers as a complete guess)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m just playing devils advocate &#8211;<br />
2. if you just paid the compulsory $9,000 when you lodged your tax return this year (maybe your employer withheld this?) and kept the $17,000 (or $8,000) and bought a unit worth $170k (maybe your parents lend you some deposit money or you got 5% loan 3 years ago when they still offered them) that rose to $210k after 5 years &#8211; you&#8217;d be better off with the house.</p>
<p>Or (probably more commonly)<br />
3. go to Europe next year and spend 12k on your credit card -and it takes you 5 months to pay it back &#8211; you might have been better NOT paying the HELP.</p>
<p>But of course paying off your HECS (or any loan) is a fantastic feeling.</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Kristian</title>
		<link>http://nomoney.com.au/hecs201/comment-page-1#comment-5452</link>
		<dc:creator>Kristian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 May 2011 03:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just paid my HECS debt off today.

My outstanding debt was approx $19k but the payout amount was approx 17k.
I calculated that this financial year my compulsoray repayments are about 9k, so my &quot;real outstanding balance&quot; is about $10k which would likely be paid off next financial year anyway through compulsorary repayments.

In my case If I paid off my loan I would save approx 10% on the whole amount (1.8k) which when you compare to the amount I would be forced to pay in the next year provides an approx 20% pa after tax return on investment. I also avoid indexation which I have not accounted for in this calculation.

Whether it is woth paying off or not really is a trade off between alternative investment options and the effective return on investment from paying off the debt through voluntary repayments. A good thing to remember though is that the bonus from paying off the debt is a &quot;risk free&quot; return and also an &quot;after tax return&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just paid my HECS debt off today.</p>
<p>My outstanding debt was approx $19k but the payout amount was approx 17k.<br />
I calculated that this financial year my compulsoray repayments are about 9k, so my &#8220;real outstanding balance&#8221; is about $10k which would likely be paid off next financial year anyway through compulsorary repayments.</p>
<p>In my case If I paid off my loan I would save approx 10% on the whole amount (1.8k) which when you compare to the amount I would be forced to pay in the next year provides an approx 20% pa after tax return on investment. I also avoid indexation which I have not accounted for in this calculation.</p>
<p>Whether it is woth paying off or not really is a trade off between alternative investment options and the effective return on investment from paying off the debt through voluntary repayments. A good thing to remember though is that the bonus from paying off the debt is a &#8220;risk free&#8221; return and also an &#8220;after tax return&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Tom

Thanks -yeah the 20% upfront discount generally comes when you have no money (I don&#039;t think anybody ever said uni full time and working was easy!).

And the 10% discount (only when you pay $500 or more) means that if you actually had $500 - there are probably better things you could be using the money for (saving for a house, or to start investing).

Scott</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tom</p>
<p>Thanks -yeah the 20% upfront discount generally comes when you have no money (I don&#8217;t think anybody ever said uni full time and working was easy!).</p>
<p>And the 10% discount (only when you pay $500 or more) means that if you actually had $500 &#8211; there are probably better things you could be using the money for (saving for a house, or to start investing).</p>
<p>Scott</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://nomoney.com.au/hecs201/comment-page-1#comment-5326</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 23:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, I&#039;ve often thought about the benefits of paying HECS off up front as opposed to just leaving it for later. That said whenever I&#039;ve been studying I&#039;ve been so broke that the exercise was purely academic anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, I&#8217;ve often thought about the benefits of paying HECS off up front as opposed to just leaving it for later. That said whenever I&#8217;ve been studying I&#8217;ve been so broke that the exercise was purely academic anyway&#8230;</p>
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